The Chris Debate

First topic message reminder :

The Chris Debate




The jacket actually looks pretty dope, although 'barangay' is barely visible


I didn't get to watch the PBA Rookie Draft last night because of reasons shmishons.

So I took my phone out and messaged ate Nessa (@SacapuloNessa) to get updates about who went where.

Who did Petron pick? Where did Abueva go? What about Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee)?

Wtf, no. I'm joking.

I just asked her how Ginebra fared, of course.

The last time we got a good pick at the draft was... Probably 2001?

Just a good ten - eleven years or so 'til today.

Not really that long, right?

But I'm not going to talk about how good our picks are since I really don't know them.

(Although I heard some great stories and watched great highlight videos)

Anyway what I'm actually going to blog about is the gigantic Chris debate that happened on the world wide web last night.

One Chris was chosen after another Chris, hence the debate.

Ginebra with # 6, Rain or Shine with # 7.

No, hold up.

Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys with # 6, Rain or Shine Elastopainters with #7.

(Do we even have a monicker? I'm getting frustrated about that, so if you have any ideas hit me up on here or Twitter)

Okay. Here we go.

On the red corner is Fil American Chris One.

Chris one is Chris Ellis.

That rookie Ginebra drafted yesterday as 6th over all. (If you're not a hoop junkie, like me, that's all you know)

And on the blue corner is Fil Chinese Chris Two.

Chris two is Chris Tiu. (I know, it rhymes)

That good looking Tsinoy smiling at you via Oracare billboard along EDSA. (If it's still there)

But before I proceed, let me just get this clear.

The great Chris debate was not between Ginebra and Rain or Shine fans.

Funny because it wasn't even between Ginebra or Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee) or Petron San Miguelsters, who both have passionate groups of fans too.

It was Ginebra vs Ginebra.

On one hand, jubilant Ginebra fans were jubilant because we got an athletic Chris Ellis (according to write ups and comments I've read since I pretty much have no idea, I'm useless)

On the other hand, angry Ginebra fans were angry because we passed up on a well loved PG in Chris Tiu (come on admit it, girls go gaga over him)

I won't write my two cents on who Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys should've picked because I'm no scout.

So I'll write about my two cents on some few comments written by awesome Ginebra fans on an InterAktv article because I want to.

Kuya is so mad at the SMC management for passing up on Chris Two.

Why didn't you pick Chris Tiu?! Chris Tiu is a good player! Jayjay (Helterbrand) won't have any decent point guard to train!

In all fairness, kuya has a point.

Chris Two is a leader, a good and intelligent player. Sikat pa, plus points!

But kuya, we have Mike Cortez, Rob Labagala, and I read somewhere that rookie Buensomething and another pick are PGs, too.

So... I think Jayjay can train them.

If Jayjay does train Point Guards. (which I really don't think that's the case)

Some other fans are devastated because they say Coach Siot projected some interest in Chris Two before the draft leading to their anticipation that Chris Two would don a Ginebra jersey.

They might have the right to be more devastated after Commissioner Salud announced the 6th pick.

(Ginebra selects Chris * paaaaaaaauuuuuuusssseeee * Ellis; according to some tweets)

Which I think is pretty cool, by the way.

But you know what, let's not get ahead of ourselves and don't let your emotions get the best of you.

We might think picking Chris One is a mistake.

We might think picking Chris Two could've been a great choice.

But, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

We, whether you like it or not, don't have any idea what's going to happen on their first games, their first seasons, ad infinitum.

All we know is what they have done and what they can do, not what they will do in the future.

Do you honestly know when Chris One will score his first basket, how he'll score it, or will he even be called from the bench?

Same goes for Chris Two.

So it's better to calm yo kidneys down and just pray everything will pan out well for Ginebra's rookies and the others.

Don't let your emotions get the best of you.

As a Ginebra fan myself, I think we're a pretty emotional bunch.

But it's not right to cry like a kid lost in a supermarket when someone you like doesn't get drafted for our team.

I mean, come on.

You might be like me, someone who doesn't have a clear idea of who Chris One is.

But while other fans are shouting their intestines out because of Ginebra's choice, I'm actually looking forward to what Chris One can bring to the team.

He's young. He's tall. I'm pretty sure he could ball. (rhymes, more rhymes)

So instead of being upset, let's be excited together!

I watched a YouTube video of Chris One's highlights.

He could shoot threes.

He could do jump shots.

He could drive inside the lanes.

He could jump pretty high.

And best of all, he could dunk.

Like seriously dunk.

I can't remember the last time Ginebra drafted someone who dunks. (Or I may be just too old to remember)

See? Isn't that ultra mega cool?

So instead of bashing the decision of the management, let's welcome and support Chris One and our other rookies.

Let's get excited together and hope & pray for the best!

And if worse comes to worst.. aren't we already used to that? Haaaaa

Although I think our rookies are good picks.

Law of attraction, you guys.

"Ginebra got great picks who would help the team win that championship." Say this 3 x a day.

That should be our mantra to attract good karma.

So you see, there's really no need to worry.

Remember when Ginebra chose a virtually unknown blonde point guard who looked like he was a part of 'N Sync?

Well that's your 2012 PBA MVP right thurrrr.

And not to mention, the heart and soul of Ginebra; our Mahatma Ghandi as I've said before.

Discussions are great, mini squabbles are exciting, but let's not fight and tear each other apart.

After all, we are Ginebra fans. We're not (insert player's name of your choice here) fans only.

And in my opinion, awesome Ginebra fans are awesome.

So let's all stay awesome, yeah?

Source: Tepmags

Ok lang yan!!! mas need lang talaga ng BGK si Ellis Over Tiu.

ganun talaga buhay.... after ng rookie contract mo lipat ka na lang sa BGK haha!

STRATEGY lang pala ni sioty yung press release nya na interesado sha kay Chris Two

^PWEDE!!!!! hahahaha

wow! ang galing naman ng writer na ito... where did you get this article?

hahaha...nakakatawang basahin...and I agree to this writer I don't know Chris Ellis, but seen his vids on youtube and he's good! I can smell championship for Ginebra...

Chris One or Chris Two?

dun ako sa marunong mag reverse o windmill dunk................. :yaay:

^Tas di rin naman papahuli sa dami ng chicks

daming nawindang na Ginebra Fans sa pagpasok ni Chris Tiu kagabi! Pero umangat parin si Chris Ellis :sky:


CE is better than CT

Dun Ako sa POgi.....:lol!:

Ken2ot wrote:Dun Ako sa POgi.....:lol!:

dun ako kay ritz azul .............. :naughty:

natawa ako sa tweet ni Eazy kagabi haha,,

Pagpasok ni Chris Tiu, laglag panty ng mga girls, nung talo ayun tinaas :hahahahaha:

skyscraper wrote:natawa ako sa tweet ni Eazy kagabi haha,,

Pagpasok ni Chris Tiu, laglag panty ng mga girls, nung talo ayun tinaas

DKT kay eazy

Dun ako sa lalake! nyahahaha

skyscraper wrote:natawa ako sa tweet ni Eazy kagabi haha,,

Pagpasok ni Chris Tiu, laglag panty ng mga girls, nung talo ayun tinaas

wahahahahaha!! ang kulet lang eh. Balita ko nga madaming kinilig eh, ako.... hindi naman.

iloveginebra wrote:

skyscraper wrote:natawa ako sa tweet ni Eazy kagabi haha,,

Pagpasok ni Chris Tiu, laglag panty ng mga girls, nung talo ayun tinaas

wahahahahaha!! ang kulet lang eh. Balita ko nga madaming kinilig eh, ako.... hindi naman.

weeh! :hahahahaha: ang kulit kaya ng mga BGSM girls Ang ingay grabe

tyak mabubuhay na naman tong isyu nato.. Sana mabantayan na ng mabuti si Chris Tiu lalo na sa Rainbow country at mag init naman si Chris Ellis lalo na sa ilalim..

Thread up

parang gusto ko ng maniwala na dapt si tiu kinuha naten

ako din, talagang totoy pa to, hindi nadadala sa mga error nya dati lalo na yun mga fouls nya sa mga 3pt shot ng mga kalaban nya,

sana hindi muna eto gawin first five... LA,MC,Baracel,Kerby at VMAC yan ang tingin ko effective na first five... ang problema lang yun 2nd unit sana gamitin si jensen over ellis.. kasi talagang hindi maasahan si ellis sa shooting, magaling lang to sa showtime, sayang talaga kala ko pa naman naka jackpot tayo sa player na to

nauutakan talaga si ellis sa foul. may time pa pag nagkakamali sya gigil na gigil syang makabawi kaso nag-baback fire sa team.. may time na okay naman si chris ellis pero sana i-guide ng coaching staff. sana rin pag pangit laro nya gamitin yung iba like jensen o rico, dapat may plan b kasi hindi pa sya consistent parang hindi pa nya kilala sarili nya kung defensive player ba sya, scorer, rebounder o ano pa. siguro bagets pa kasi.

trade na lang kaya si ellis for future pick..just an opinion

wahahahah .............. trade ulit ............ it's just a rookie mistake ........... may gigil factor ........ basta ako, malaking asset xia sa ginebra ............

no trade for Ellis, defensively talagang ibinubuhos naman nya efforts nya, dun sya nagcoconcentrate, kita naman kagabi yung block nya kay Araña...kaso offensively nakadesign talaga para kay mc47 yung system...sana gaya na lang ng dati noong panahon ni Jawo, walang star player, lahat pag ipinasok may role na gagampanan, depensa muna, pag libre ay kayang ishoot e di ishoot, habulin ang tira pag alam na magmimintis. Pag alanganin sa padrive or pashoot na kalaban, no easy basket dapat! kagabi ang daming cheap fouls puro foul counted pa!

NO MORE TRADES! very RAW pa si Ellis pero may ibubuga naman sha kelangan lang nya maging consistent both ends, defense and offense..

baka kung itrade nyo xia ............. manghinayang pa kayo ........ basta ako naniniwala kanyang kakayahan ......... malaking tulong xia sa ginebra ........