PBA: Barangay Ginebra Kings 2012 Draft preview
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PBA: Barangay Ginebra Kings 2012 Draft preview
PBA: Barangay Ginebra Kings 2012 Draft preview
CARLO PAMINTUAN, GMA News August 16, 2012 2:11pm
2011-12 season recap:
What happened?
The Barangay Ginebra Kings were always at the thick of things throughout the season. They started slow but gained steam and almost made it to the Governor’s Cup Finals if it wasn’t for a late B-Meg put-back. The Ginebra campaign in the 2011-2012 PBA season only showed that Mark Caguioa is still at his prime. He won the MVP award but as he said in many interviews, he’d gladly trade it for a championship. The problem for the Ginebra Kings last year was that some of their key players were not healthy. They were also involved in mid-season trades which cost them some points in terms of chemistry.
Where do they go from here?
When they traded for Allein Maliksi and Dylan Ababou, Ginebra partly secured their future. With this upcoming PBA Draft, they want to take another step forward in their youth movement. With a complete off-season under their belts, the Ginebra Kings should be better this upcoming season. Being in the thick of things next year won’t nearly be enough though. They want to get back into the Finals for a shot at winning another championship. It’s been a long wait for the team and their fans, and as such, they will surely be out to make this dream a reality next season.
What do they need most?
The Kings need legitimate big men.
A quick look at their lineup shows that only Enrico Villanueva is the legitimate center. They move guys like Kerby Raymundo and Eric Menk to the center position sometimes when they are really power forwards. Then they also have small forwards who spend some time at the four position. They need size and they should be filling that need in the upcoming draft.
However, the PBA Draft often boils down to getting the player your team needs versus getting the most talented player. Luckily for Ginebra, the team has two first-round picks, meaning they may be able to fill a need as well as add to their overall talent level.
Possible first round pick (6th and 8th overall): Ronald Pascual, Alex Mallari, Aldrech Ramos
Although getting big men will address a lot of their issues, it’s highly unlikely that they will get two bigs with their sixth and eighth picks. There is a possibility though that Ronald Pascual may still be available at number six, with June Mar Fajardo, Chris Ellis, Cliff Hodge, Calvin Abueva, and Chris Tiu being penciled as the first five selections. Basically, Ginebra needs to select whichever of those players is still available.
The next two options after those guys will be Aldrech Ramos and Alex Mallari. Rain or Shine will surely select one of those, so Ginebra should take whoever was passed up on. This year’s PBA Draft could be a very good one for Ginebra. If they get Pascual and Ramos, they’ll get extra scoring punch and a good defensive big man. If they get Pascual and Mallari, their wing positions will be set for the years to come.
Possible trades
If they can get a good big man by trading any of their picks, they should. It will be much better for them to get help from a big who already has PBA experience. If they get Pascual with the sixth pick, it might actually be better for them to trade away their eighth pick for a quality big man.
Rumors also abound that the Kings are one of the teams involved in a multiple-squad blockbuster. If that pans out, then that could change their draft plans drastically, depending on whom they land. - AMD, GMA News
Source: Gmanetwork.com
CARLO PAMINTUAN, GMA News August 16, 2012 2:11pm
2011-12 season recap:
- Philippine Cup: 9-5 (4th place), swept 0-2 in the quarterfinals by Rain or Shine
- Commissioner’s Cup: 6-3 (2nd place), eliminated 1-3 in the semifinals by B-Meg
- Governor’s Cup: 9-5 (3rd place), lost a playoff in the semifinals against B-Meg
What happened?
The Barangay Ginebra Kings were always at the thick of things throughout the season. They started slow but gained steam and almost made it to the Governor’s Cup Finals if it wasn’t for a late B-Meg put-back. The Ginebra campaign in the 2011-2012 PBA season only showed that Mark Caguioa is still at his prime. He won the MVP award but as he said in many interviews, he’d gladly trade it for a championship. The problem for the Ginebra Kings last year was that some of their key players were not healthy. They were also involved in mid-season trades which cost them some points in terms of chemistry.
Where do they go from here?
When they traded for Allein Maliksi and Dylan Ababou, Ginebra partly secured their future. With this upcoming PBA Draft, they want to take another step forward in their youth movement. With a complete off-season under their belts, the Ginebra Kings should be better this upcoming season. Being in the thick of things next year won’t nearly be enough though. They want to get back into the Finals for a shot at winning another championship. It’s been a long wait for the team and their fans, and as such, they will surely be out to make this dream a reality next season.
What do they need most?
The Kings need legitimate big men.
A quick look at their lineup shows that only Enrico Villanueva is the legitimate center. They move guys like Kerby Raymundo and Eric Menk to the center position sometimes when they are really power forwards. Then they also have small forwards who spend some time at the four position. They need size and they should be filling that need in the upcoming draft.
However, the PBA Draft often boils down to getting the player your team needs versus getting the most talented player. Luckily for Ginebra, the team has two first-round picks, meaning they may be able to fill a need as well as add to their overall talent level.
Possible first round pick (6th and 8th overall): Ronald Pascual, Alex Mallari, Aldrech Ramos
Although getting big men will address a lot of their issues, it’s highly unlikely that they will get two bigs with their sixth and eighth picks. There is a possibility though that Ronald Pascual may still be available at number six, with June Mar Fajardo, Chris Ellis, Cliff Hodge, Calvin Abueva, and Chris Tiu being penciled as the first five selections. Basically, Ginebra needs to select whichever of those players is still available.
The next two options after those guys will be Aldrech Ramos and Alex Mallari. Rain or Shine will surely select one of those, so Ginebra should take whoever was passed up on. This year’s PBA Draft could be a very good one for Ginebra. If they get Pascual and Ramos, they’ll get extra scoring punch and a good defensive big man. If they get Pascual and Mallari, their wing positions will be set for the years to come.
Possible trades
If they can get a good big man by trading any of their picks, they should. It will be much better for them to get help from a big who already has PBA experience. If they get Pascual with the sixth pick, it might actually be better for them to trade away their eighth pick for a quality big man.
Rumors also abound that the Kings are one of the teams involved in a multiple-squad blockbuster. If that pans out, then that could change their draft plans drastically, depending on whom they land. - AMD, GMA News
Source: Gmanetwork.com
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kung si CT lang kukunin, itrade nalang yang 2 pick naten kay Tonshingwa mas katanggap tanggap pa kesa sa 2 binanggit ni sioty na prospect nila
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ok lang si jensen kunin sa draft dahil 6'4 un ........ nasa sf/pf ang position nya ........ at wag si tiu dahil kalaban nya sa pt sina, ababou at maliksi ......
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i agree that BGK needs a big man like sonny thoss or rabai a legitimate center that can defend inside and grab the boards.
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a_perater@yahoo.com wrote:i agree that BGK needs a big man like sonny thoss or rabai a legitimate center that can defend inside and grab the boards.
we hope so na sana ganun nga nasa utak ni coach siot ........ hindi un gwapong player lang ............
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^@klasmeyt ......... kapag walang siot, walang jwash to bgk ..........
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^Let's give Siot a Chance Guys Common!!! baka may magandang magawa pa eh sayang... tutal napa champion naman nya San Miguel.....
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MythicalV wrote:^Let's give Siot a Chance Guys Common!!! baka may magandang magawa pa eh sayang... tutal napa champion naman nya San Miguel.....
nagbago ata ang isip mo ngaun klasmeyt? ................
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^Ha??? ahhh ehhh????? hahahahaha!
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AIR21 gets:
PETRON's Noy Baclao & Rob Reyes, BGK's KG Canaleta & John Wilson and BARAKO's Leo Najorda
Note: It's an open secret that BARAKO BULL is owned and operated by SMC, with Lina as front.
PETRON gets:
AIR21's 2013 1st round pick and players Elmer Espiritu, Paolo Hubalde, Ogie Menor, Magi Sison, & Eric Salamat
What's funny in all of this ..... Baclao, Reyes, Canaleta & Najorda we're all former players of the Lina/Chua bugaw teams - all of them used as fillers for past lopsided trades for the SMC teams !
KG Canaleta was already with a Lina team twice before !
Even John Wilson was a product of a lopsided trade between BARAKO BULL and BGK ...... the draft pick used to get Wilson, belonged to BARAKO ...... which was sold este traded for BGK Filam Mike Holper.
Mike Holper played just a conference for BARAKO ..... was waived, then went back to then SMB.
That 2013 1st round pick is sure to land PETRON either Pringle, Slaughter, Lanete or Banchero next year.
The moro-moro in the PBA continues ..... (Comm. Cheato Salud has a big smile across his face)
totoo kaya 'to?
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gandang gabi kabs wnc19 .............. :hellohat:
source please kasi kulang ......... ano ang nakuha ng ginebra at redbull sa trade rumor nayan ............
source please kasi kulang ......... ano ang nakuha ng ginebra at redbull sa trade rumor nayan ............
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this is actually not confirmed.. who or what Petron gets is not yet confirmed kasi it's a 4-team trade between Petron, Ginebra, Air21 and Barako.. Kramer is rumored to be heading back to Ginebra.. Danny Seigle is going back daw to Petron.. Petron will lose their 3rd pick tomorrow daw and B-Meg may enter the picture.. Ginebra is also rumored to be getting one of B-Meg's point guards.. ang medyo confirmed pa lang ay ang mga players na makukuha ng Air21..
kramer + 2 guards from bmeg? mukhang kasama nga dito si pretty boy barroca, sino kaya yung isang guard? medyo nakakalito na mga trade humor to the fact na eve of 2012 draft ngayon, galing din po yan sa isang forum na hot topic na din ngayon kabs garrett...
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bali,
ginebra out ........ KG and john wilson
ginebra in ........ kramer and 1 bmeg PG( barroca, urbiztundo, and villanueva)
sino o ano mawawala sa bmeg kung kapalit ay 3rd pick? dapat star player ang kapalit nyan .......like jun simon
ginebra out ........ KG and john wilson
ginebra in ........ kramer and 1 bmeg PG( barroca, urbiztundo, and villanueva)
sino o ano mawawala sa bmeg kung kapalit ay 3rd pick? dapat star player ang kapalit nyan .......like jun simon
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barroca matunog e, pero kung barroca + villanueva, pwede na.
not sure pero parang si PING yung nabasa ko
not sure pero parang si PING yung nabasa ko
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salam na mangyayari bukas... makukuha ng bmeg un 3rd pick ng petron para makuha si chris tiu tapos magiging new pg nila, then un si barocca na panget ang laro ayun tinapon na lang sa ginebra.. in short last option nnman ang ginebra, pinaboran nanman ang petron at bmeg
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wnc19 wrote:barroca matunog e, pero kung barroca + villanueva, pwede na.
not sure pero parang si PING yung nabasa ko
sana sa ginebra na yan .............. :naughty:
kahit walang jwash ..........
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malabo mawala yan sa bmeg pre... tingin ko ang pwede mawala don eh si barocca, villanueva, reavis at simon... pero kng balak nila makuha ang 3rd pick ng petron dapat 3 jan eh mawala.. but knowing smc mngt... nothing impossible sa kanila... haysss mahal na mahal nila ang petron at bmeg eh.. oo nga nakuha natin si PRM, dylan at maliksi... ang tanong eh ganon ba sila ka star studded nun bago pa sila na draft sa pba.. hindi di ba? ang bmeg meron barocca un nga lang hindi nagamit.... so if mapupunta nga sa atin si barocca... sigurado ako magiiba ang laro nyan... look at his performance when he was playing on smart gilas... ang galing pero nun napunta sa bmeg nawala laro i think it's because of triangle system, kasi tingin ko ang player na to mas sanay sa run and gun... kaya ok na din kng mapunta sa atin to since kelangan din naman natin ng point guard... so malamang sa alamang forward or bigman nalng ang bibigyan ng atensyon nila coach sioty...
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tama ka mod ruxs....... kailangan talaga ng ginebra ng sentro ........ un makakatulong kina hatfield, raymundo at PRM sa pagkuha ng bola, pero wag nilang palagpasin either kina jensen o mallari ........
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excited na ko for tomorrow's draft...sana maging tama ang desisyon ni siot sa draft bukas...
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same tayo kabs wnc19 ..............
daming rigodon bukas ............ kaya walang kukurap ............
daming rigodon bukas ............ kaya walang kukurap ............
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Possible first round pick (6th and 8th overall): Ronald Pascual, Alex Mallari, Aldrech Ramos
wala man lang tumama sa sinabi ng writer na ito
wala man lang tumama sa sinabi ng writer na ito
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