The Chris Debate
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The Chris Debate
The Chris Debate
The jacket actually looks pretty dope, although 'barangay' is barely visible
I didn't get to watch the PBA Rookie Draft last night because of reasons shmishons.
So I took my phone out and messaged ate Nessa (@SacapuloNessa) to get updates about who went where.
Who did Petron pick? Where did Abueva go? What about Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee)?
Wtf, no. I'm joking.
I just asked her how Ginebra fared, of course.
The last time we got a good pick at the draft was... Probably 2001?
Just a good ten - eleven years or so 'til today.
Not really that long, right?
But I'm not going to talk about how good our picks are since I really don't know them.
(Although I heard some great stories and watched great highlight videos)
Anyway what I'm actually going to blog about is the gigantic Chris debate that happened on the world wide web last night.
One Chris was chosen after another Chris, hence the debate.
Ginebra with # 6, Rain or Shine with # 7.
No, hold up.
Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys with # 6, Rain or Shine Elastopainters with #7.
(Do we even have a monicker? I'm getting frustrated about that, so if you have any ideas hit me up on here or Twitter)
Okay. Here we go.
On the red corner is Fil American Chris One.
Chris one is Chris Ellis.
That rookie Ginebra drafted yesterday as 6th over all. (If you're not a hoop junkie, like me, that's all you know)
And on the blue corner is Fil Chinese Chris Two.
Chris two is Chris Tiu. (I know, it rhymes)
That good looking Tsinoy smiling at you via Oracare billboard along EDSA. (If it's still there)
But before I proceed, let me just get this clear.
The great Chris debate was not between Ginebra and Rain or Shine fans.
Funny because it wasn't even between Ginebra or Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee) or Petron San Miguelsters, who both have passionate groups of fans too.
It was Ginebra vs Ginebra.
On one hand, jubilant Ginebra fans were jubilant because we got an athletic Chris Ellis (according to write ups and comments I've read since I pretty much have no idea, I'm useless)
On the other hand, angry Ginebra fans were angry because we passed up on a well loved PG in Chris Tiu (come on admit it, girls go gaga over him)
I won't write my two cents on who Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys should've picked because I'm no scout.
So I'll write about my two cents on some few comments written by awesome Ginebra fans on an InterAktv article because I want to.
Kuya is so mad at the SMC management for passing up on Chris Two.
Why didn't you pick Chris Tiu?! Chris Tiu is a good player! Jayjay (Helterbrand) won't have any decent point guard to train!
In all fairness, kuya has a point.
Chris Two is a leader, a good and intelligent player. Sikat pa, plus points!
But kuya, we have Mike Cortez, Rob Labagala, and I read somewhere that rookie Buensomething and another pick are PGs, too.
So... I think Jayjay can train them.
If Jayjay does train Point Guards. (which I really don't think that's the case)
Some other fans are devastated because they say Coach Siot projected some interest in Chris Two before the draft leading to their anticipation that Chris Two would don a Ginebra jersey.
They might have the right to be more devastated after Commissioner Salud announced the 6th pick.
(Ginebra selects Chris * paaaaaaaauuuuuuusssseeee * Ellis; according to some tweets)
Which I think is pretty cool, by the way.
But you know what, let's not get ahead of ourselves and don't let your emotions get the best of you.
We might think picking Chris One is a mistake.
We might think picking Chris Two could've been a great choice.
But, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
We, whether you like it or not, don't have any idea what's going to happen on their first games, their first seasons, ad infinitum.
All we know is what they have done and what they can do, not what they will do in the future.
Do you honestly know when Chris One will score his first basket, how he'll score it, or will he even be called from the bench?
Same goes for Chris Two.
So it's better to calm yo kidneys down and just pray everything will pan out well for Ginebra's rookies and the others.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you.
As a Ginebra fan myself, I think we're a pretty emotional bunch.
But it's not right to cry like a kid lost in a supermarket when someone you like doesn't get drafted for our team.
I mean, come on.
You might be like me, someone who doesn't have a clear idea of who Chris One is.
But while other fans are shouting their intestines out because of Ginebra's choice, I'm actually looking forward to what Chris One can bring to the team.
He's young. He's tall. I'm pretty sure he could ball. (rhymes, more rhymes)
So instead of being upset, let's be excited together!
I watched a YouTube video of Chris One's highlights.
He could shoot threes.
He could do jump shots.
He could drive inside the lanes.
He could jump pretty high.
And best of all, he could dunk.
Like seriously dunk.
I can't remember the last time Ginebra drafted someone who dunks. (Or I may be just too old to remember)
See? Isn't that ultra mega cool?
So instead of bashing the decision of the management, let's welcome and support Chris One and our other rookies.
Let's get excited together and hope & pray for the best!
And if worse comes to worst.. aren't we already used to that? Haaaaa
Although I think our rookies are good picks.
Law of attraction, you guys.
"Ginebra got great picks who would help the team win that championship." Say this 3 x a day.
That should be our mantra to attract good karma.
So you see, there's really no need to worry.
Remember when Ginebra chose a virtually unknown blonde point guard who looked like he was a part of 'N Sync?
Well that's your 2012 PBA MVP right thurrrr.
And not to mention, the heart and soul of Ginebra; our Mahatma Ghandi as I've said before.
Discussions are great, mini squabbles are exciting, but let's not fight and tear each other apart.
After all, we are Ginebra fans. We're not (insert player's name of your choice here) fans only.
And in my opinion, awesome Ginebra fans are awesome.
So let's all stay awesome, yeah?
Source: Tepmags
The jacket actually looks pretty dope, although 'barangay' is barely visible
I didn't get to watch the PBA Rookie Draft last night because of reasons shmishons.
So I took my phone out and messaged ate Nessa (@SacapuloNessa) to get updates about who went where.
Who did Petron pick? Where did Abueva go? What about Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee)?
Wtf, no. I'm joking.
I just asked her how Ginebra fared, of course.
The last time we got a good pick at the draft was... Probably 2001?
Just a good ten - eleven years or so 'til today.
Not really that long, right?
But I'm not going to talk about how good our picks are since I really don't know them.
(Although I heard some great stories and watched great highlight videos)
Anyway what I'm actually going to blog about is the gigantic Chris debate that happened on the world wide web last night.
One Chris was chosen after another Chris, hence the debate.
Ginebra with # 6, Rain or Shine with # 7.
No, hold up.
Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys with # 6, Rain or Shine Elastopainters with #7.
(Do we even have a monicker? I'm getting frustrated about that, so if you have any ideas hit me up on here or Twitter)
Okay. Here we go.
On the red corner is Fil American Chris One.
Chris one is Chris Ellis.
That rookie Ginebra drafted yesterday as 6th over all. (If you're not a hoop junkie, like me, that's all you know)
And on the blue corner is Fil Chinese Chris Two.
Chris two is Chris Tiu. (I know, it rhymes)
That good looking Tsinoy smiling at you via Oracare billboard along EDSA. (If it's still there)
But before I proceed, let me just get this clear.
The great Chris debate was not between Ginebra and Rain or Shine fans.
Funny because it wasn't even between Ginebra or Pure Foods (B-MEG/San Mig Coffee) or Petron San Miguelsters, who both have passionate groups of fans too.
It was Ginebra vs Ginebra.
On one hand, jubilant Ginebra fans were jubilant because we got an athletic Chris Ellis (according to write ups and comments I've read since I pretty much have no idea, I'm useless)
On the other hand, angry Ginebra fans were angry because we passed up on a well loved PG in Chris Tiu (come on admit it, girls go gaga over him)
I won't write my two cents on who Barangay Ginebra San Miguel Sunog Baga Boys should've picked because I'm no scout.
So I'll write about my two cents on some few comments written by awesome Ginebra fans on an InterAktv article because I want to.
Kuya is so mad at the SMC management for passing up on Chris Two.
Why didn't you pick Chris Tiu?! Chris Tiu is a good player! Jayjay (Helterbrand) won't have any decent point guard to train!
In all fairness, kuya has a point.
Chris Two is a leader, a good and intelligent player. Sikat pa, plus points!
But kuya, we have Mike Cortez, Rob Labagala, and I read somewhere that rookie Buensomething and another pick are PGs, too.
So... I think Jayjay can train them.
If Jayjay does train Point Guards. (which I really don't think that's the case)
Some other fans are devastated because they say Coach Siot projected some interest in Chris Two before the draft leading to their anticipation that Chris Two would don a Ginebra jersey.
They might have the right to be more devastated after Commissioner Salud announced the 6th pick.
(Ginebra selects Chris * paaaaaaaauuuuuuusssseeee * Ellis; according to some tweets)
Which I think is pretty cool, by the way.
But you know what, let's not get ahead of ourselves and don't let your emotions get the best of you.
We might think picking Chris One is a mistake.
We might think picking Chris Two could've been a great choice.
But, let's not get ahead of ourselves.
We, whether you like it or not, don't have any idea what's going to happen on their first games, their first seasons, ad infinitum.
All we know is what they have done and what they can do, not what they will do in the future.
Do you honestly know when Chris One will score his first basket, how he'll score it, or will he even be called from the bench?
Same goes for Chris Two.
So it's better to calm yo kidneys down and just pray everything will pan out well for Ginebra's rookies and the others.
Don't let your emotions get the best of you.
As a Ginebra fan myself, I think we're a pretty emotional bunch.
But it's not right to cry like a kid lost in a supermarket when someone you like doesn't get drafted for our team.
I mean, come on.
You might be like me, someone who doesn't have a clear idea of who Chris One is.
But while other fans are shouting their intestines out because of Ginebra's choice, I'm actually looking forward to what Chris One can bring to the team.
He's young. He's tall. I'm pretty sure he could ball. (rhymes, more rhymes)
So instead of being upset, let's be excited together!
I watched a YouTube video of Chris One's highlights.
He could shoot threes.
He could do jump shots.
He could drive inside the lanes.
He could jump pretty high.
And best of all, he could dunk.
Like seriously dunk.
I can't remember the last time Ginebra drafted someone who dunks. (Or I may be just too old to remember)
See? Isn't that ultra mega cool?
So instead of bashing the decision of the management, let's welcome and support Chris One and our other rookies.
Let's get excited together and hope & pray for the best!
And if worse comes to worst.. aren't we already used to that? Haaaaa
Although I think our rookies are good picks.
Law of attraction, you guys.
"Ginebra got great picks who would help the team win that championship." Say this 3 x a day.
That should be our mantra to attract good karma.
So you see, there's really no need to worry.
Remember when Ginebra chose a virtually unknown blonde point guard who looked like he was a part of 'N Sync?
Well that's your 2012 PBA MVP right thurrrr.
And not to mention, the heart and soul of Ginebra; our Mahatma Ghandi as I've said before.
Discussions are great, mini squabbles are exciting, but let's not fight and tear each other apart.
After all, we are Ginebra fans. We're not (insert player's name of your choice here) fans only.
And in my opinion, awesome Ginebra fans are awesome.
So let's all stay awesome, yeah?
Source: Tepmags
skyscraper- Global Moderator
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Re: The Chris Debate
shella wrote:very well said..
:welcomes: to Ginebra Tambayan kabarangay shella :NSD:
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Re: The Chris Debate
Para sa akin magandang pick ung chris ellis kesa nman ung isang chris kunin naten..
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Team Chris One! hehehe
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YUp!!!! baka biglang iwan ni Chris Tiu ang PBA.. mahirap na hahaha
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ang kulet naman ng article na to.hehe.. ok naman sila parehas, pero kung long term basis, kay CHRIS ONE ako
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Re: The Chris Debate
energetic pa itong si ellis at na dunk pde sumali sa dunk contest
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Re: The Chris Debate
this is really such a "controversy" eh..? anyway, on my opinion,it doesn't matter who is that "chris" as long as he will give his heart for the team and rest assured we, the fans, will give our hearts in return..
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shella wrote:this is really such a "controversy" eh..? anyway, on my opinion,it doesn't matter who is that "chris" as long as he will give his heart for the team and rest assured we, the fans, will give our hearts in return..
exactly! good point! ang lamang kasi ni chris two este ni tiu kay chris ellis ay una, sikat dahil naging artista bukod sa gwapo pangalawa may exposure na sa mga international competition pero sabi ko nga sa ibang thread dito, mahirap mag invest kay Chris Tiu dahil baka di yan magtagal sa PBA..
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Chris Ellis din ako kahit nung una palang eh.. wala sa list ko si Chris Tiu (sorry Tiu fans) kasi we need wing since mainit na papakawalan si KG and since nawala satin si JC, kailangan talaga natin ng isang energetic Wingman that Chris Ellis can provide.. alam natin once may showtime na mangyari the crowd goes crazy, yun ay isa pa sa mga kulang sa team natin ang magbibigay excitement sa game like a dunk that Ellis can also provide.. We don't need Tiu because madami tayong nakuhang magagling na PG sa draft..
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nun bago ang draft gusto ko mapunta si chris tiu sa ginebra kasi kelangan din pumalit sa trono ni jj as a franchise pointguard of ginebra.. tpos bigman din ang gusto ko makuha.. pero wala sa isip ko tong si ellis kasi ang alam natin lahat makukuha sya ng barako or meralco,, ang turning point talaga nun draft eh un pagkuha ng petron kay mallari.. kaya nag karon ng madami option ang ibang team.. pero may ayaw din ako kay chris tiu un eh un age nya he is now 28 or 27yrs old i think.... 3 years na lang 30 na sya.. si mc47 32 so 5yrs lng ang tanda ni spark sa knya... pero look at ellis... he is only 23 yrs old... mas magagamit sya at mahahasa pa... si chris tiu sabi nga ng iba tentative din kng tatagal eto sa pba....
natatawa naman ako kay coach yeng... nun naging player nila si chris tiu kala nya dadami ang fans nila... kasi narinig nya yun hiyawan ng mga fans nun binanggit ni kume ang chris akala ng lahat eh si chris tiu eh sa kukunin ng ginebra pero hindi naman pala... pero sana inisip din ni coach yeng na yun mga fans na yun eh fans ng ibang team... nun nasa pba nga ang gilas nandon si chris tiu pero hindi ko man lang napapansin ang fans nya
natatawa naman ako kay coach yeng... nun naging player nila si chris tiu kala nya dadami ang fans nila... kasi narinig nya yun hiyawan ng mga fans nun binanggit ni kume ang chris akala ng lahat eh si chris tiu eh sa kukunin ng ginebra pero hindi naman pala... pero sana inisip din ni coach yeng na yun mga fans na yun eh fans ng ibang team... nun nasa pba nga ang gilas nandon si chris tiu pero hindi ko man lang napapansin ang fans nya
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Re: The Chris Debate
gaano kaya kadami yan tiufanatics na yan??
sigurado naman puro babae lang yan... and FYI... konti lang ang girls fans compared sa male fans :naughty:
at baka karamihan sa fans nya eh fans nya nun nasa showbiz sya at hindi nun nag lalaro sya :masaya:
sigurado naman puro babae lang yan... and FYI... konti lang ang girls fans compared sa male fans :naughty:
at baka karamihan sa fans nya eh fans nya nun nasa showbiz sya at hindi nun nag lalaro sya :masaya:
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^mismo! mga walang alam sa basketball yang mga yan
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maglaro nalang muna yang dalawang CHRIS na yan para masabi naten na dapat talaga panghinayangan si Chris TWO
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ok!!!!!!!si chris ellis pang ginebra talaga ang dating... si chris tiu pang model sa showtime channel 2. kutob ko di tatagal si chris tiu sa pba.
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Mas lamang naman yung Ellis, height, age, skill at higit sa lahat gusto nya talaga sa ginebra hindi katulad ni Tiu parang playing safe ang answers dati pang Ms. Universe sumagot hehe.. saka para kasing overrated si Tiu. Masaya na rin ako atleast okay nakuha ng Ginebra sa draft.. :)
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korek na tumbok mo kay ELLIS tayo lamang kahit san mo sipatin....jianaustin wrote:Mas lamang naman yung Ellis, height, age, skill at higit sa lahat gusto nya talaga sa ginebra hindi katulad ni Tiu parang playing safe ang answers dati pang Ms. Universe sumagot hehe.. saka para kasing overrated si Tiu. Masaya na rin ako atleast okay nakuha ng Ginebra sa draft.. :)
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jianaustin wrote:Mas lamang naman yung Ellis, height, age, skill at higit sa lahat gusto nya talaga sa ginebra hindi katulad ni Tiu parang playing safe ang answers dati pang Ms. Universe sumagot hehe.. saka para kasing overrated si Tiu. Masaya na rin ako atleast okay nakuha ng Ginebra sa draft.. :)
:welcomes: to Ginebra Tambayan kabarangay jianaustin :NSD:
tingin ko kasi kabs kay Chris Two, gusto lang nya ma experience ulet maglaro sa PBA tapos balik showbiz din yan..
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mas magaling si player E kaysa kay player T ............
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i think so ganyan din... nagpaparami lng ng fans
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snow badua @snowbadua
CHRIS TIU had to be escorted by 8 ROBINSON's securitymen on his way to his car while the other draftees walk by themselves.
ayos ah...
CHRIS TIU had to be escorted by 8 ROBINSON's securitymen on his way to his car while the other draftees walk by themselves.
ayos ah...
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ano na kaya pakiramdam nya na di sha kinuha ng isa sa mga popular team sa PBA?
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kitang kita sa mukha nya ang kalungkutan... ineexpect nya kasi siguro kukunin sya alinman sa ginebra at bmeg tapos nabasa nya din siguro un article na kukunin sya ng ginebra pag umabot pa sya sa pick ng ginebra
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