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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:03 am

Ginebra in transition

For a team that held so much promise and potential going into the season, the Barangay Ginebra San Miguel and their millions (and millions- S/O Rock) find themselves struggling after two games with a clear lack of cohesion and chemistry on the floor.

It's easy to put the blame on their import Herbert Hill who looks to be winded everytime the 2nd half comes in, but you have to spread the fault to guards L.A. Tenorio, Jayjay Helterbrand and their barrage of wings from Chris Ellis, Mac Baracael and veteran Rudy Hatfield. Reigning PBA Most Valuable Player Mark Caguioa is putting up the numbers, but after that, there's no one carrying the fight for the hapless Barangay.

With new coach Alfrancis Chua running the show, many expected more involvement in the offense of little-used, many-time PBA Mythical team member big man Kerby Raymundo. Alas, despite having a patsy as an import, the team still refuses to run any plays through Raymundo and is adamant on a "small ball" approach on offense. This works only if you have a dominant anchor in the paint to grab rebounds and make up for all the expected defensive lapses of his guards-- last time we checked, Hill is far from being dominant (being outplayed by Global Port's Japeth Aguilar even) so there you have it.

Another thing that bothers us is the subpar play of Tenorio, who was clearly brought in to literally run the whole show. Takeaway Caguioa, and you have a bunch of able finishers (but not creators) with Tenorio serving as the premier catalyst to make it work. Now that he is going through a shooting slump, teams are just waiting for him to make the pass and just concentrate on their guys. This is a far cry from when Tenorio is at his best, slicing for lay-ups and hitting step back threes which opens up all sorts of options for his teammates to either rotate and wait for the kick-out pass or look to get the offensive rebound.

With Hill reportedly on his way out, the Barangay is banking on their coming import (an NBA D-Leaguer) to right the ship. The locals need to get their acts together and if they are to continue with this "small ball" approach, then the three guys at the forefront are Tenorio, Caguioa and Baracael. Raymundo is, unfortunately, the odd man out and needs to be sent to a team that could use his services (Meralco).


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Post by betterhalf on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:05 am

Wag na muna gamitin si kerby wlang na itutulong ang sama lagi ng play pag pumapasok sya
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:10 am

Di muna ako mag eexpect sa ginebra na makaabot kahit QF's pero hoping na sana mali ako, kagabe pasundot sundot lang panonood ko, ewan ko ba parang tinatamad akong panoorin sila pero di ibig sabhn nun hindi ako DIE HARD FAN ng Ginebra.. siguro tulad ng ibang players ng ginebra mababa morale nila siguro ganun din ako anyway goodluck nalang sa team ko! #NSD
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:18 am

mas maganda siguro, gamitin ng madalas sina taha at PRM kesa kina kerby at hatfield ....................
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:21 am

tutal nasa transition stage nanaman ang ginebra more PT para sa mga rookies and sophomores
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:22 am

nahihirapan ngaun ang ginebra dahil walang karelyebo si idol mc47 sa opensa .............. puro offnite un iba ................
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:24 am

si MC lang kasi ang bukod tanging operator, creator & finisher sa ginebra.. the rest more on finisher or operator lang..
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:38 am

di mo rin kasi alam kung anu talaga ang distinction ng Ginebra.. Run and Gun ba sila or what.. Mahirap din kasi ang FREEWHEELING type.. Kasi papakita mo yung SKILLS mo at MAKAKAYA mo.. Ang nangyayari minsan nagkakanya kanya ng laro or worst takot tumira.. Wala silang play para sa TEAM.. Tapos nawala narin yung depensa ng Ginebra which is known for.. Ending parang nagkakape lang ang kalaban habang shinoshoot ang bola..

Minsan nakakasawa narin magsabi ng magsabi ng BOUNCE BACK pero wala tayo magawa.. Ginebra nako since birth.. Masakit man pero kailangang tanggapin ang nangyayari sa team.. Hope CHUA cud make a BIGTIME Adjustments before its too late..
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:40 am

kahit ayaw ko ke Japeth dahil me attitude sya KUNIN na sya ORA MISMO! Kung si Kerby man or Wilson ang hingiin nilang kapalit ibigay na nila.. Di naman din sila na UUTILIZE.. Kailangan ng Ginebra ang Height.. kagabi sobrang kita ang deperensya ng Laki ng Petron sa Ginebra.. Early 1st qtr 3 fouls kagad si Ellis.. Tapos maning mani ng Petron ang mga rebounds..

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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:42 am

Kung ang A21 at Global Port ang unang nakatalo saten, masakit isipin sino pa ang matatalo naten sa mga remaining na teams.. hay.. Sensya na.. di ko kasi nakikita ang EAGERNESS ng GINEBRA PLAYERS kagabi.. Wala yung PUSO sa game.. Si TAHA lang at si MC ang gustong MANALO other than that WALA NA..
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:51 am

mag ba BOUNCE BACK sila ................ NSD ................
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Post by nolzky83 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:53 am

ako una pa lang dismayado na even start of the game nagpakitang gilas na agad si LA pero wala pa rin nakakawalang gana panoorin na ang laro ng GINEBRA walang saysay ang hirap at pagod ni MC47 at TAHA tama ka kabs SKY wala sa puso ang laro ng ibang players ng GINEBRA nakakainis...
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:59 am

parang nakita ko na itong scene na halos laging talo ang ginebra .......... #2008champions ............
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:59 am

^sana nga pre #dejavu
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:01 am

nolzky83 wrote:ako una pa lang dismayado na even start of the game nagpakitang gilas na agad si LA pero wala pa rin nakakawalang gana panoorin na ang laro ng GINEBRA walang saysay ang hirap at pagod ni MC47 at TAHA tama ka kabs SKY wala sa puso ang laro ng ibang players ng GINEBRA nakakainis...

after nung monster slam ni ellis na galeng pa sa putback wala na.. sayang yung mga open shots ni MacBac.. Sana nilapit nalang nya.. 3 or 4 straight misses un sa labas na walang bantay.. wala yung aggressiveness nila.. 2nd half wala narin yung scoring prowess ni LA.. Sana magkaroon sila ng PLAY.. Ang nangyayari kasi parang LAKERS SYSTEM ang Ginebra.. Parang nagiging ONE MAN SHOW.. Sorry for the word pero di ko talaga nakikita ang TEAM PLAY ngayon.. Wala na yung magagandang pasahan.. hay..
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:02 am

basta keep on faith sa ginebra natin .............

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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:06 am

naniniwala naman ako garrett.. Okey lang naman na matalo basta nakikita mo na lumalaban sila.. Sanay naman ako sa talo eh.. Kahit nung Jawo Era pa.. ewan ko..basta nakukulangan ako.. parang nasa bakasyon pa ang PUSO nila.. Walang tentativeness sa laro.. walang eagerness manalo..
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:09 am

tutal aminado naman sila na nasa transition stage sila baket di kaya nila subukang gawin na irevamp naman ang mga ASST COACHES.. Nagtrade na tayo ng nagtrade, nagpalit narin tayo ng coaches ganun parin.. Baka ang malas saten e ang mga EX-SMB Players na nasa Ginebra bench ngayon..

Tutal nagcommit naman sina Vince na once kailangan ang serbisyo nila sa Ginebra bench as asst coaches willing sila.. Why dont we embark The TRUE NSD SPIRIT noon sa ngayon..
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:13 am

ang problema ay iisa lang may hawak sa lahat ng team ng SMC, si Noli Eala di maaalis sateng mga ginebra fans na less priority ni eala ang Ginebra
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:15 am

^ mas gusto ko palitan dian si eala, puro trade kasi ang nasa isip ........... yan tuloy nawala un chemistry ..................... nawala na un ibang ginebra players dahil sa trades ngaun rumeresbak sila ..................
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:17 am

di kasi nya maalis alis ang mga EX-SMB players at di nya malagay sa Petron.. Ewan ko ba! Baket sa Ginebra nila pinagsisiksikan ang mga pinaglumaan ng ibang SMC teams..

Hay Chua 130-133 na ang record mo.. sana mabawi mo ang pangit mong record nung nasa Tanduay ka at ang mga players mo ay si menk, hatfield, webb at hontiveros.. Pati sa Sta Lucia na may twin towers na sina Limpot at Espino..
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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:18 am

BryAn San Miguel Reyes
Bat ganun ung mga player na ayos naman maglaro kapag napunta sa Ginebra nabobobo maglaro.. Bat gnun?!
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Post by MR. FAST on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:23 am

tignan nyo ang SMCM, nung nag overhaul ng coach pati coaching staff ni revamp dapat ganun din sa ginebra, baket kasi nila pinakawalan si flying A nun.. tsk
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Post by garrett_jax on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:29 am

^ yan isa sa mga wish list ni tim cone bago nya iaccept ang coaching ng SMCM ..............

ok lang mawala si johnny A, ang pinagtataka ko, ang ganda ng season ending ni uichico, bakit xia pinalitan? ................

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Post by skyscraper on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:57 am

yun ang malaking kawalan sa Ginebra! Si Coach Jong! nawala yung magandang depensa ng Ginebra!
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