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Post by Ginebra Tambayan on Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:51 am

Will H-Bomb make cut-off?
SPORTING CHANCE By Joaquin Henson The Philippine Star Updated December 06, 2011 12:00 AM

Rudy Hatfield won’t be available to play for Barangay Ginebra until next month. If the Kings make it to the semifinals of the Philippine Cup, the H-Bomb might still be able to catch up and play this conference. And if Ginebra advances to the finals, Hatfield could find himself in coach Siot Tanquingcen’s rotation.

But is the Ginebra coaching staff willing to gamble and fix what ain’t broke by bringing in Hatfield with the Philippine Cup playoffs just around the corner? Chemistry is something that doesn’t come easy. It takes time to develop familiarity and trust among players. Tanquingcen recently engineered a trade that brought in Allein Maliksi from Barako Bull and Rico Maierhofer from B-Meg. Maliksi still hasn’t played a game for the Kings while Maierhofer played briefly in one. They’ll be broken in slowly so as not to upset the rhythm of Ginebra’s usual rotation. What’s going for Hatfield is he isn’t a stranger to the Ginebra system, having worked before with Tanquingcen and assistant coach Jong Uichico.

Lineup changes may be made only until Dec. 12, the day after the end of the eliminations. So if Tanquingcen has plans of enlisting Hatfield for the playoffs, he’s got to line him up by Dec. 12 even if the H-Bomb won’t be ready to play until early next year. It’s possible that Ginebra will have been eliminated by the time Hatfield is available but it’s also possible that the Kings may still be in contention.

At the moment, Ginebra is 7-5 with two games left in its schedule – Barako Bull on Thursday and Talk ‘N’ Text on Sunday. If the Kings win both assignments, they’ll move up to 9-5. The goal is to finish the eliminations in the top six because winding up No. 7 or No. 8 will mean playing either of the top two placers with a twice-to-win disadvantage.

Either Talk ‘N’ Text or Petron will notch win No. 10 after their encounter at the Smart Araneta Coliseum tonight. The winner will automatically gain at least a playoff for a twice-to-beat advantage in the quarterfinals, the first stage of the playoffs. If B-Meg beats Shopinas on Thursday as it is expected to, then the Derby Ace Llamados also earn at least a playoff for the other twice-to-beat advantage with win No. 10. A three-way tie for first will result if Petron beats Talk ‘N’ Text, B-Meg beats Shopinas and Talk ‘N’ Text beats Ginebra on Sunday.

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Under tournament rules, there will be no playoff to break ties unless it is for the second and eighth slots. With Alaska and Shopinas out of the running, the only possible playoff will be for second place if Petron, B-Meg and Talk ‘N’ Text finish with identical 10-4 records.

Rain Or Shine will end up at 9-5 with a win over Alaska in the first game of today’s twinbill. That will assure the Elasto Painters of a top six rung.

Barako Bull now totes a 6-6 record with two games to go – against Ginebra on Thursday and Powerade on Sunday. The Energy Boosters could go up to 8-6 to tie Meralco in the standings. It’s possible that Barako, Meralco and Ginebra will finish with identical 8-6 marks. Rain Or Shine will also finish at 8-6 if it loses to Alaska today. In this case, the logjam will be broken via the quotient system. That means the Ginebra-Barako and Barako-Powerade games will be bloody battles where the goal is to win by as many points as possible.

Ginebra PBA Governor Robert Non said yesterday he’s leaving it up to the Kings coaching staff to decide if Hatfield will be in the lineup for the Dec. 12 cut-off. Uichico confirmed that Hatfield won’t be ready until January and his contract remains under negotiation. Uichico said he expects the contract to be finalized this week.

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Last Sunday, Ginebra played without Maliksi, Maierhofer and Jay-Jay Helterbrand but managed to upend Meralco, 81-71. In the Kings’ six wins before the game, they held their opponents to an average of 79.8 points. Ginebra was also No. 2 in field goal percentage allowed at an even 40 percent. The indicators showed that for Ginebra to beat Meralco, the Kings had to limit the Bolts to 80 or less and less than 40 percent shooting. No question, defense was the key to victory and so it was. Meralco scored only 15 in the first period and 12 in the second then sputtered with just seven in the last 8:21. The Bolts hit only 32.5 percent from the field and delivered 71 points. Mike Cortez led the way with 14 points, nine rebounds, five assists, three steals and no turnover in 36 minutes. Rico Villanueva chipped in 11 points and nine rebounds in 33 minutes.

Ginebra has now won three in a row, four of its last five, but the Kings will be hard pressed to extend the streak unless Tanquingcen harnesses Maliksi, Maierhofer and Helterbrand for the tough games ahead. Somehow, Tanquingcen has been able to collect wins with hard-nosed team defense, a style that Ginebra isn’t traditionally known for. The Kings built a reputation as a run-and-gun machine through the years but times have changed. Now, the accent is on defense and if that’s what it takes to win, neither Tanquingcen nor the Barangay multitude will have it any other way.


Source: The Philpippine Star

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Re: Will H-Bomb make cut-off?

Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:20 am

IMO, wag sanang ipilit isama sa rotation ng players si Hbomb IF ever dumating kagad sha or umabot ng SEMIS....

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Post by rentboy on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:31 am

^^ Skin nman pre ok na din na isama na sya sa final lineup, kng di pa nman 100% si Maliksi / PRM xa nlng muna sa slot ng 1 sa knila. Lalo na pg umabot ang BGK sa Finals mlaking 2long din si HBomb.

Ilan nga ba ang pdeng players sa line up? 14 lng b?

Kng di pa kya ni Maliksi or PRM sa reserve list nlng muna ilagay, wag nlng muna pwersahin pra di lumala injury.

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:34 am

rentboy wrote:^^ Skin nman pre ok na din na isama na sya sa final lineup, kng di pa nman 100% si Maliksi / PRM xa nlng muna sa slot ng 1 sa knila. Lalo na pg umabot ang BGK sa Finals mlaking 2long din si HBomb.

Ilan nga ba ang pdeng players sa line up? 14 lng b?

Kng di pa kya ni Maliksi or PRM sa reserve list nlng muna ilagay, wag nlng muna pwersahin pra di lumala injury.

hmmm.. kaso magiging unfair naman ang coaching staff sa ibang players nyan pre to think kararating lang nya tas binigyan agad sha ng spot? di man lang nya pinaghirapan? no doubt! HBOMB can contribute pa din, but, kelangan paghirapan muna ni HBomb ang kanyang pagbabalik sa PBA! sabi nga ng ibang mga kabarangay naten, may attitude problem sha na ON THE GO palage

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Post by rentboy on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:47 am

Tama ka naman jan, kaso mo kng di din ksi maggamit ang 1 kla PRM & Maliksi mas ok na din sumugal kay HBomb na alam nman ntin na mkka-2long din sa campaign ng BGK. Pero kng nkkita nman ng coaching staff na mggamit nla si PRM & Maliksi, pabor din nman ako na wag na muna ipasok si HBomb sa lineup ngaun.

Or if no choice tlga at gusto isama ng coaching cla PRM, Maliksi & Hatfield, ireserve nlng muna si Cervantes

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:49 am

^siguro try nilang ipasok ng paunti unit si REIL, sayang naman kung di sha gagamitin, wag naman sanang matulad sha kay JIMBO..

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Post by rentboy on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:57 am

^^ Na ma-trade pre?

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:59 am

rentboy wrote:^^ Na ma-trade pre?

for GUARD? wag naman!hahaha.. ok naman si REIL, mamana sana nya yung kasipagan ni W. WIlson for sure astig sa ilalim yan! balik tayo kay Hatfield, kung NO CHOICE na ang team, sige papayag na kong ipasok sha sa line up ngayong conference, ano ba magagawa ko diba?!

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Post by rentboy on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:04 am

Sbi ni Mr Non ippaubaya na daw nya sa coaching staff ang desisyon kng ippasok na si HBomb sa lineup e. Abangers nlng muna tau. Habang wla pa dpat mgpkitang gilas na si Reil pra nman mgkaroon ng kumpyansa sa kanya ang deadly duo coaches ntin. Yun ay kng mggamit xa.

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:06 am

For sure pagnakabalik si HBomb, magsosolo na si REIL sa pagchechess, wala na si JIMBO at Yancy e

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Post by DMac on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:49 am

para sa akin kung di pa nmn 100% yung dalawang bagong lipat sa atin ok lang na ipasok si HBomb sa line up. Ganun din nmn eh di pa rin nmn kabisado ng dalawa ang rotation natin or di pa sila ok when it comes to chemistry. Mas maganda na yung meron tyong HBomb na 100% sure tyo na injured free d b.?

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Re: Will H-Bomb make cut-off?

Post by rentboy on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:51 am

MR. FAST wrote:For sure pagnakabalik si HBomb, magsosolo na si REIL sa pagchechess, wala na si JIMBO at Yancy e

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Bka iniwan ni Jimboo un PSP nya pre. Ok na un khit mg-1 lng si Reil.

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 11:54 am

DMac wrote:para sa akin kung di pa nmn 100% yung dalawang bagong lipat sa atin ok lang na ipasok si HBomb sa line up. Ganun din nmn eh di pa rin nmn kabisado ng dalawa ang rotation natin or di pa sila ok when it comes to chemistry. Mas maganda na yung meron tyong HBomb na 100% sure tyo na injured free d b.?

may point ka dun pre.. anyway, sana lang talaga pag nakabalik si Hbomb sana wag nya naman maisipan magbakasyon kagad

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Post by DMac on Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:13 pm

MR. FAST wrote:
DMac wrote:para sa akin kung di pa nmn 100% yung dalawang bagong lipat sa atin ok lang na ipasok si HBomb sa line up. Ganun din nmn eh di pa rin nmn kabisado ng dalawa ang rotation natin or di pa sila ok when it comes to chemistry. Mas maganda na yung meron tyong HBomb na 100% sure tyo na injured free d b.?

may point ka dun pre.. anyway, sana lang talaga pag nakabalik si Hbomb sana wag nya naman maisipan magbakasyon kagad

yun lang ikinakatakot nating lahat. sana nmn sa natitirang lakas ang katawan at isip niya sa basketball eh ubusin na niya sa ginebra tutal ilang taon na rin nmn siya.

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Re: Will H-Bomb make cut-off?

Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:07 pm

Uichico confirmed that Hatfield won’t be ready
until January and his contract remains under negotiation. Uichico said
he expects the contract to be finalized this week.

kung dadating sha, dumating na sha kagad para naman may time sha makapag adjust sa bagong sistema ni coach siot...

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Post by MythicalV on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:16 pm

^Tama! ok na sakin kahit hindi siya lumaro this confy pero dapat maaga siyang dumating para makapag practice na siya sa buong team



pag dating ng next season



100% JayJay , Rico M, Alein

+ Reconditioned HBOMB = Championship na!

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:23 pm

MythicalV wrote:

100% JayJay , Rico M, Alein + Reconditioned HBOMB = Championship na!

ganda ng FORMULA mo pre! ayos!

ang malaking katanungan IF ever makapasok sha sa line up ng GINS, sino irerelegate nila sa reserve list/injured list?

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Post by MythicalV on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:25 pm

^Yun nga pre eh

tingin ko pre tatlo pagpipilian

Wilson or Lab tapos depende sa Kondisyon ni Menk.

yan tatlo siguro

Hopefully wala ma injury sa BGK natin

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Post by MR. FAST on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:28 pm

MythicalV wrote:^Yun nga pre eh

tingin ko pre tatlo pagpipilian

Wilson or Lab tapos depende sa Kondisyon ni Menk.

yan tatlo siguro

Hopefully wala ma injury sa BGK natin

pwedeng si Reil kasi di naman nagagamit..hehehe..

Sana pagbalik ni Hatfield bumalik na din yung A-GAME ni Menk for sure kahit sino pa makatapat naten kahit BIIK pa yan, yakang yaka yan!

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Post by MythicalV on Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:37 pm

^Tama pre nawala sa isip ko ri Reil bwahaha parang d naman kasi siya BGK Player dahil nga hindi nagagamit



malamang si Cervantes nga pre. tama ka dun

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Post by bestie on Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:04 pm

next conference ka na bumalik h-bomb!:)

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Re: Will H-Bomb make cut-off?

Post by geraldasakura on Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:19 pm

for me. pabor ako sa pagbabalik lineup ni Hbomb, kung Emenk is not ready, kung 2 new acquired players natin are still on rehabilitaion mas kailangan natin si Hbomb... Rudy is Rudy.... sa totoo lang, naawa ako kay WWilson kasi siya ang laging kawawa sa ilalim, buti nlang at nagcocontribute na si EVill.. About kay reil, ewan ko ba kung bakit ayaw bigyan ng chance ito, sayang naman kasi, kung hindi gagamitin sana si Dylan nalang ang kinuha nung draft...Abang mode nalang tayo sa mga susunod na pangyayari.. basta paiyakin ang mga biik solve na ako dun.. haha :geraldasakura:

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