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Post by skyscraper on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:02 pm

New GSM additions create redundancies at forward position.

If you think the addition of Chris Ellis, Keith Jensen and Elmer Espiritu only brings positive outcomes, think twice. Actually they create more problems for the coaches of this GSM team.

Some say having many talents in a roster is a good problem. Well, it isn't. Just look at the Petron team last year. Everyone's competing for playing minutes. Which is why I think KG Canaleta and John Wilson are happier now because they can play on a team that needs their services.

I'm sure everyone agrees that it is a pain to watch a talented player sit on the bench and does nothing but to do high fives every time a time out is called.

And that's my fear coming into the season. I don't want to see Rico Maierhofer, Allein Maliksi and the others doing only high fives. Because it's not right. Even in the basketball world, there's what you call injustice.

So let me enumerate the GSM players who play the small forward (SF) and power forward position (PF).

SF: Dylan Ababou, Allein Maliksi, Chris Ellis
PF: Willy Wilson, Rico Maierhofer, Rudy Hatfield, Kerby Raymundo, Elmer Espiritu, Keith Jensen

If I count it right, that's about 9 players fighting for a position that can only be played for 48 minutes.

And even if I'm not a coach, I can easily predict that two or three of them will get to do what chicken hens do, warm the bench.

Or even Espiritu won't make it to the final roster. It turns out that the trade only worsens his career.

Last year, Dylan Ababou and Allein Maliksi didn't get the right minutes. With the Ellis addition, it only makes their basketball lives tougher. One thing I can suggest is to use Maliksi as a back up shooting guard for Mark Caguioa. But we must also remember that Ronald Tubid might do a comeback. Either way, it will be tough for Maliksi to get his desired minutes.

At the power forward position, it gets even trickier. Just like Ababou and Maliksi, Maierhofer was not fully utilized. And with Jensen in, expect more rotation problems right? Because let's admit it, Willy Wilson will still be coach Siot's favorite. Rudy Hatfield won't get his usual minutes. Kerby Raymundo might go out on twitter complaining about his minutes too.

And For Espiritu, sorry but I can't even imagine seeing him play for the barangay.

Last season, coach Siot tried to do the Yeng Guiao. Different starting lineups and rotation every game. But he's not coach Yeng. Was he able to make everyone satisfied? No. You can see that on everyone's faces except Mark Caguioa. Now, I really wonder how will he manage rotation problems with this current lineup.

Unless a trade happens, I don't see those 9 forwards getting their desired playing time.

Redundancies are not good in any sense. They create problems. You can solve them by eradicating some. In the basketball world, make a trade if you're not going to use their talents.

Source: robertribon

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Post by betterhalf on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:07 pm

tingin ko jan masusubok ang pagiging magaling ng isang coach..

maganda lang sa line up naten ngaun wlang tulak kabigin..lahat pde mong ilaban lahat pdeng umiskor.. sana lang tlga maayos na pag coach ang gawin ni siot

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Post by skyscraper on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:11 pm

sabi ko nga kagabi sa twitter kay Admin Gerald, di pa tapos ito. Mabigat ang kapalit ng 1st round pick. At saka yung nga loaded tayo ng #3 so anu ipapasok naten sa loob ng court? 1,2,3,3,3?! Syempre hindi.. kaya sa tingin ko may trade na naman na magaganap..

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Post by jay_garcia_7 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:31 pm

tingin ko mas ok kung magtrade sila ng isang PF at SF for a quality guard or trade for future draft picks...

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Post by MR. FAST on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:32 pm

jay_garcia_7 wrote:tingin ko mas ok kung magtrade sila ng isang PF at SF for a quality guard or trade for future draft picks...

:welcomes: to Ginebra Tambayan kabarangay jay_garcia_7 :NSD:

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Post by skyscraper on Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:33 pm

jay_garcia_7 wrote:tingin ko mas ok kung magtrade sila ng isang PF at SF for a quality guard or trade for future draft picks...

tama! Mag trade nalang sila for future picks.. pude rin sa 2014.. Kasi mga bata na halos ang nasa line up naten.. Center nalang talaga ang kulang..

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Post by DMac on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:07 pm

Heto ang hirap ng kuha ng kuha eh. Dapat di na lang sila nag pick pa after ng first two picks natin. Tapos itrade na lang for draft picks yung iba kung saan loaded nga tayo for a guard na lang. Parang sa pagkain lang yan eh masaklaw mata mo kukunin mo lahat ng gusto mong pagkain tapos di mo mauubos mabubulok lang, mabubulok lang sayang.

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Post by jianaustin on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:42 pm

DMac wrote:Heto ang hirap ng kuha ng kuha eh. Dapat di na lang sila nag pick pa after ng first two picks natin. Tapos itrade na lang for draft picks yung iba kung saan loaded nga tayo for a guard na lang. Parang sa pagkain lang yan eh masaklaw mata mo kukunin mo lahat ng gusto mong pagkain tapos di mo mauubos mabubulok lang, mabubulok lang sayang.

after ng first round, 3rd round na nakapick ang ginebra, paano nila itratrade yun? kailangan lang nila ng isang pg kahit nag draft sila ng apat para may pagpilian. hindi naman lahat papipirmahin saka wala rin namang choice kasi si fajardo lang talaga yung Center na ready na sa PBA the rest either PF or project center pa lang.

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Post by jianaustin on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:45 pm

Alam kong siksikan talaga sa 3-4 pero pag tiningnan mo yung buong picture okay na rin ,na kay siot na lang paano nya aayusin yung team. kausapin nila si enrico na maglaro ng center kasi minsan parang gusto nya maging shooting guard or small forward..

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Post by MR. FAST on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:46 pm

yun ang problema kay sioty kabs, hirap shang magbalasa ng players nya

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Post by jay_garcia_7 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:50 pm

totoo ba ung balita na posibleng palitan si siot ni alfrancis chua?

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Post by MR. FAST on Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:52 pm

jay_garcia_7 wrote:totoo ba ung balita na posibleng palitan si siot ni alfrancis chua?

yan yung rumor dati kabs, wala pang confirmation

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Re: New GSM additions create redundancies at forward position.

Post by caloy on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:05 pm

I think ngayong season may mabibigyan ng priority ng coaching staff ang mga bagong players with the likes of Maliksi,Ababou,Ellis,Jensen,Maierhofer.

This is my idea of the rotation.My 1st five.
PG-Cortez
SG-Caguioa
SF-Ababou
PF-Maeirhofer
C-Raymundo

2nd Unit
PG-Helterbrand
SG-Maliksi
SF-Ellis
PF-Jensen
C-Hatfield

3rd Stringers
PG-Labagala/Canada/Buensuceso
SG-Zamar
SF-Willy Wilson
PF-Espiritu
C-Mamaril

I think 14 man line up ang pwede kada team so yung nasa 3rd stringers mapupunta sa reserve list.Tingin ko papasok sa final line up sina Canada at Buensuceso

Reserve List; Zamar,Labagala

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Post by skyscraper on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:13 pm

caloy wrote:I think ngayong season may mabibigyan ng priority ng coaching staff ang mga bagong players with the likes of Maliksi,Ababou,Ellis,Jensen,Maierhofer.

This is my idea of the rotation.My 1st five.
PG-Cortez
SG-Caguioa
SF-Ababou
PF-Maeirhofer
C-Raymundo

2nd Unit
PG-Helterbrand
SG-Maliksi
SF-Ellis
PF-Jensen
C-Hatfield

3rd Stringers
PG-Labagala/Canada/Buensuceso
SG-Zamar
SF-Willy Wilson
PF-Espiritu
C-Mamaril

I think 14 man line up ang pwede kada team so yung nasa 3rd stringers mapupunta sa reserve list.Tingin ko papasok sa final line up sina Canada at Buensuceso

Reserve List; Zamar,Labagala

yan din gusto ko mapasok pre! Si canada at Buensuceso

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Post by jay_garcia_7 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:31 pm

kung si yeng guiao siguro ang coach ang ganda siguro ng rotation...

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Post by skyscraper on Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:40 pm

^ pero we have to face the reality na di sya pude sa team

Sana masolusyunan ni Coach Siot ang magiging problem ng team sa hinaharap..

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Post by ruxs_14 on Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:09 pm

trade lang ang solusyon dyan, willing ako tanggalin si willie wilson, cortez at evill for sonny thoss... mamaril and elmer yan lang dapat ibangko pati si rob...

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Post by weirdwitch on Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:45 am

ah...not cortez :(

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Post by garrett_jax on Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:16 am

not din kay elmer ............. mas magaling yan kesa kay PRM .........

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Post by AngelRose26 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:30 am

si mamaril pwede ibangko at roblab

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Post by rhone on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:05 am

para sa akin walang dapat i-bangko
para lumabas ang kanilang mga laro
and dapat i-upo ung coach na kalbo

kapag oras ng laro
lagi nalang nakatayo
nahahalata tuloy kabado
kaya player rotation nagkakagulo.....

sana sa pagbubukas ng palaro
makita kitang nakaupo
upang hindi mo maharangan
ang iyong mga manlalaro.....

sa mga player namang nakaupo
habang hindi ginagamit
maging handa sa bawat sandali
para kapag kinalabit ay talagang nag-iinit!!!!!!

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Post by AngelRose26 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:09 am

rhone wrote:para sa akin walang dapat i-bangko
para lumabas ang kanilang mga laro
and dapat i-upo ung coach na kalbo

kapag oras ng laro
lagi nalang nakatayo
nahahalata tuloy kabado
kaya player rotation nagkakagulo.....

sana sa pagbubukas ng palaro
makita kitang nakaupo
upang hindi mo maharangan
ang iyong mga manlalaro.....

sa mga player namang nakaupo
habang hindi ginagamit
maging handa sa bawat sandali
para kapag kinalabit ay talagang nag-iinit!!!!!!



:gudjob:
nice!!!!!

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Post by garrett_jax on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:13 am

kerby at ellis pwedeng maging center at saka mas maganda un multiple position ang alam, kaya si coach siot na lang ang bahalang magbalasa ....

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Post by ruxs_14 on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:22 am

tama... jensen and ellis pwede mag palitan sa 3rd and 4th spot if ever isabay sila sa loob tapos center naman si kerby or alin man kila mamaril at evill

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Post by garrett_jax on Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:28 am

si ellis pwedeng maging center, basta mag pa build up lang xia ng katawan mala hbomb ...........

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